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When users get lots of email, they they tend to ignore (not care) and delete without even opening. Besides, if the content is not seriously written, people/media tend to think it as spam and propaganda, and it makes negative impact. So please think about that, but of course don't think that we obstructed you. Please feel free to do whatever you decide. dai i liked your view and i have my full sympathy towards the madhesi community as i myself am a madhesi.but the point is plz. donot compare madhesi community with dalits and janjatis of either pahadi or any other breed.being born as a madhesi doesnot mean you become comparable to a janjati or a dalit,well i donot feel so because i donot see any lackings in me that mounts to the amount to be called a dalit just because of the fact that i am a madhesi.i personally think the issue of discrimination towards madhesi and the favourism provided to the other breed doesnot raise the question of we being comparable to dalits and janjatis.i hope you understood what i meant to say.in nutshell all i wanted to say is i was not born in a community which was in any parameters of comparision weaker than pahadis or comparable to the janjatis or dalits.and the fact that i am not either of them,i would not seek any cooperation from them unless they realise that they should provide the cooperation. Please take my email off from your groups list. Taal na Surka emails are getting under my skin.
Mr Bhagatji,

Aaha bahut aacha kam kairrahalchi,snghars karaet rahu. Madesi ekta ke lel aur adikar ke lel apne ke prayas kelel bahut bahut dhanyabad.

Janakpur ( Nepal)
==NAMASKAR==


Dear Friends,
Terain people's issues are of serious concern to all section of society. Some miscreants are trying to fish in the troubled water. But people's concern is to get rid of all structural discrimination. Main reason behind disbelief is the process of political decisions, which have been always non-transparent and unilateral by eight party. Our leader's were much focused on bringing Maoist on mainstream very quickly. So, (due to clandestine process) people feel alienated. People never knew about the Logic behind decisions. That is why they do not believe that as per the proposed election system parties will incorporate them under 204 PR mechanism. Politicians also could not convince people that politics is the business of politicians which is done through political parties. Either you join political party to do politics or voice through civil society. Some new personalities see this as a chance to establish themselves very quickly in the political arena, which is not bad any way. Current agitation has not incorporated the agenda of historical suffering, exploitation and discrimination. Rather this is more focused on opposing current leadership and claiming for surity of participation in the political bodies i.e. CA & Parliament, which is not again wrong to express willingness to contribute in the nation building.
We have demanded that state should be ready to ammend interim constitution to incorporate people's will of proportional representation and political parties should more concretely express their commitment towards federal structure of the country through CA.
Please find the attachment.
Thanks,
Subodh. Mere Desh ki dharti sona ugle ugle ....Ab uglegi Kranti ki Jwala, Tap aur agni..MAA ki saugandh ab madhespe Raj ohi karega jo Madhesi hoga.Madhesh me ab salik Madhesi shahid ka rahega jo iske liye apni pranki ahuti di hai.


Dear All

Namaste!

Nepal is home to a mosaic of ethnicities and languages. More than 61 ethnic groups and diverse nationalities reside in the country. Despite the socio-cultural diversity, Nepal is facing a vicious cycle of poverty which mainly is the cause of spatial heterogeneity and structural inequalities. The spatial causes of poverty can be seen due to the regional imbalance in the development process, while the structural inequalities have been coupled by 'haves' and 'have nots'. Structural inequality has further been compounded by the caste system of the country. Although anti-discrimination provisions are contained in the 1990 Constitution, caste discrimination remains ingrained in Hindu- dominated Nepalese society. Poverty, lack of social services (health, education, water and sanitation, etc.) remain pressing problems for rural, lower castes and indigenous peoples, despite economic development and poverty alleviation having been the primary objectives of the Nepali budget for the past years. Additionally, the bitter truth is that lower castes and minority ethnic groups are disproportionately affected by widespread social and economic problems aggravated by poverty. Generally, Nepal's Hindu-dominated society has excluded four groups of people from the contemporary development processes either through political exclusion (decentralized efforts of development, basic citizenship rights, etc.) or through economic exclusion (concentrated urban market centers) or through social exclusion (socio-cultural attributes-a legacy of age old culture, etc.) These four groups are: i) Dalits or lower caste people, ii) Indigenous people or Janajati iii) Madeshi or Terai inhabitants and iv) Women.

In spite of having a long history of origin and habitat, the Madhesi community is practically considered as outsiders. They continue to be marginalized and have faced exclusion in active political participation, administration and governance, decision- making and policy planning. Moreover, they face problems like issues of citizenship and finding their true identity in their own native land. The Madhesi people feel highly discriminated against and has almost lost 'the sense of belongingness to this nation'. The exclusion of the Madhesi community (comprising of 32 percent of the country's human resources) from the national mainstream has been a negative factor for the sound economic development in the country.

Many of the modern day basic facilities have not yet reached Madhesi people. Nearly 40 percent of the Madhesi population is Dalit and indigenous Janajati who are inherently disadvantaged in many social and economic aspects. Again, poverty is very high among the Muslim population living in rural areas having average low rates of literacy. There has been little effort to prevent social, economic and political exclusion and to reintegrate those who have become excluded through unemployment, landlessness and homelessness. In addition, immediate attention needs to be provided to ascertain citizenship rights to the landless Madhesi people, and to maximise their representation in political and administrative units of the country.

Event after contributing significantly against the nationwide movement/protest against the absolute rule of King Gyanendra and making People's Movement-II a grand historical success on April 26, 2006, Madhesi people does not have clear guarantee for their fair representation in Constituent Assembly Election. Political parties are theoretically agree on the issues of proportional representation of Madhesi people in constituent assembly, federal system with regional autonomy including other issues demanded by Madhesi people, lack of common consensus and commitment with action of the parties are fuelling the frustration of Madhesi people. On-going Madhesi Movement in Central and Eastern Terai of Nepal is expressing the voice of these deprived and frustrated Madhesi population. No one can deny the fact that penetration of anti-democratic elemenents (hindu extremists and royalists) and opportunists are making the movement violent and communal. However, thousands of peoples participation in daily protest throughout districts is enough to prove that the movement is reflecting Madhesi people's voice.

Excessive use of force (gun, bullets, tear gas and other means) by the State is escalating the violence. Hundreds of people are getting victimized and more than 7 people died in the movement. However, the State is not moving any solid step to calm the situation and descalate the violence. In spite of request and demand by Personal Representative of the UN Secretary General Ian Martin, Chief of the Office of the High Commissioner for the Human Rights (OHCHR) in Nepal; Lina Sundh, Indian Ambassador to Nepal, Members of Council of Ministers, 49 Members of Parliament (MPs) of eight political parties, human rights organizations and civil societies to address the demand of Madhesi people are not being entertained by the State.

Daily life of civilian is badly affected by the movement. Daily consumer items are getting out of stock. Thousands of civilians depend on daily wages are badly affected and having no means of bread and butter. Patients are not getting health facilities due to strike. Market, schools, campuses, banks and other basic facilities are badly hampered. Frustration tends to anger and anger is leading into violent expression. Now, its time for all of us; the members of civil societies to choose one of two ways; (i) to witness the movement getting communal and violent and give silence approval to the State brutality to its citizen demanding their rights, and (ii) to give pressure to the State for immediate address to the Madhesi people's demand and to the organizer/s of movement for peaceful demonstration.

If we choose number two, then followings are couples of ideas to contribute for peaceful solution of the Madhesi Movement;

At Individual level;

A. Write article on peace, communal harmony, peaceful way of demanding rights, inclusion, civic education, etc. Article describing the real and authentic number and status of Madhesi and other excluded groups and their contributions in nation building can also play vital role in promoting the reorganization of excluded groups ( e.g. madhesi, dalit, aadibasi/janjati, women etc) at wider audience and authencity/ justification of their demands for rights.

The address of some of the newspapers and magazines widely and easily available to the people are as follows;

* kanti@kantipuronline.com for Kantipur Daily
* editorial@annapost.com for Annapurna Post and The Himalayan
* news@newsofnepal.com for Nepal Samacharpatra
* samay@vianet.com.np for Samay
* hkp@himalmedia.com for Himal Khabarpatrika
* editors@nepalitimes.com for Nepali Times

You can also publish your article through other media sources you know.

B. Donate for the medical treatment of victims of movement.

C. Condemn the State brutality against its citizen and give pressure to the organizer for peaceful demonstration.

D. Talk and discuss on Madhesi and other excluded groups in your family, friend circle and work place.

E. Participate in peaceful demonstration and express solidarity to the excluded groups peaceful movement.

F. Send e-mail to the Prime Minister Office, Home Ministry, Nepal Police requesting immediate action for peaceful solution of movement at the following address;

* info@opmcm.gov.np to the Office of Prime Minister and Council of Ministers (Attn: Mr Girija Prasad Koirla; the Prime Minister. Tel: 01-4414607)
* moha@wlink.com.np to the Ministry of Home Affairs. (Attn: Mr Krishna Sitaula; Home Minister. Tel: 01- 5527725)
* info@nepalpolice.gov.np to the Police Head Quarter. (Attn: Mr Om Bikram Rana, IGP.)
* info@peace.gov.np to the Peace Secretariat. (Attn: Dr. Bhoj Raj Ghimire; Chief Secretary. Tel: 01-4211092)

Others..

At Institutional level:

A. Organize an interaction/ discussion session on Madhesi and other excluded groups in all staffs meetings of your organzation. Analyze your organization in Social Inclusion and Gender Equality (GESI) Framework. Make a plan for mainstreaming GESI into your organization/project.

B. Lead or join a group of delegation to your respective member of parliament (MP) and show your concern.

C. Plan and implement training/ workshop/ project on civic education, GESI, peace education, constituent assembly, voter education etc.

D. Organize and/or participate in peace rally.

E. Organize fund-raising campaign for the victims of Madhesi and other excluded groups movement.

F. Form and/or join a network of civil societies and pressure group of/for peaceful movement.

Others..

We all have equal responsibility for making "New Nepal where every Nepali live with dignity, peace and harmony." Our single step can lead and follow the march of sustainable peace.

May Peace Prevail in Nepal ..

---------------------
Rakesh Ranjan
Janakpur, Nepal


Dear friends,

Pro Pro Public strongly support the just demand of people of Terai. Please find the attached Press Release of Pro Public condeming the attitute of government towards the just demand of people of Terai and demands with government to address the issue very sensetively.

With best wishes,

Prakash Mani Sharma
Executive Director


this is exactly what i am talking about you can hardly see the difference. It was the success of panchayat raj to make you not see the difference. Nepali refers to only language( khas Bhasha) not the people.

Here is an example

" I speak nepalese langauges but Nepali is not my mother tongue. I am a Nepalese but my mother tongue is not Nepali "
It applies in your case too if you consider you are not a pahade. Corrupted GOP people used Nepali in very jabarjasti way to make you 'khas' in the processof khasitization of the country. Unless you show this difference to peple of tarai it is not worth to claim autonomous region. We msust understand this differentiation. I have confronted with Upendra Mahato but he is a pro-palace person he can swallow these things easily.

Thank you for my name included.


Hi Paramendra,
I feel for you and can very well understand where you are coming from. Please let me know if there is anything that I can do to help.


Dear Paramendra,

Could you please communicate the grave situation to Madheshi people living in USA. We need their support very much. We also need fund to treat the injured persons. Please forward the press release and my letter to all Madheshi and Pahadi people in USA.

Best regards,
Shree Govind


i looked through your blog but could not find anything about
maoist voilence and the janatantrik morcha. If you could please send me any
article or news or a particular page site about maoist.


I am sure that Nepal will certainly be better place to live in if these
issues are resolved. And I pray that once talked SHANTI CHETRA becomes
becomes peaceful in reality.


Dear Office Bearers,
We need to raise our voice against unjustified use of force against Terai people by nepalese government. Not only that nepal government has oursourced that task to Maobadi which is still in world's terrorist list. So far officially 7 has died and many injured.
Nepalgunj and recently in Bhairahawa are few incidence that proves it. At this moment we madheshi living in US need to have an unified voice and let this voice to be heard by world leaders.
1. letter to Madam secretary of state, with as many signature we can collect from our fellow tarains.
2. letter to UN secretary general, with as many signature we can collect....
3. letter to respective senators
If you have other suggestion pls let me know. Don't expect anything from Pahadi association of Nepalese in America.
-Rajeeb Mishra


Dear all

Hi

Recent development in Terai has certainly drawn the attention of national
and international political intelligentia, academiia and activists. Everyone
agrees with the demands of different madhesi groups including Maoist though
Mr Prachand called the supporter of MRPF as criminal and gangster(all nepali
knows who is the real criminal terrorizing the nation for more than a
decade).

The article by Mr BC Lal is an eye openar to both madhesi and pahadi
community to realize the fact where the Nepali society is headed. If the age
old (238yrs) state policies to treat Madhesi as 2nd class citizen are not
started to chang now from interim constitution itself, the future of
developed nepal will be far distant.

I agree with the Suman Ghimire's comment that education is far important to
empower the Madhesi community. There is big question why madhesi communities
do not invest in education?. why only 20 students are in Malangwa college
while 200 in Hariaun?. I think the answer lies in unrealistic government
policies. Government should have run eduation drive or campaign against any
cultural or traditional or man made hinderances to people to reach the
educational institutions. It didn,t happen only because madhesi community do
not had enough voice in the government during the entire shah dynasty and it
has continued till todey (compare the number of parliamentarians in interim
parliament)

Sumanji, the work that Dusadh and Chamar are doing tode will developed as
profession and will be carried by everyone irrespective of their caste and
ethnicity. Example can be seen in SULAB INTERNATIONAL in India where toilets
across the India is managed by Jha and Lals.

Mr Lal's article does not exhibits the data regarding doctors and engineers,
true. Being a technical person I want to ensure everyone the data in
technical field is alos not so encouraging. If you give a glance to the
directory published by Nepal Engineers association one can easily find that
only 21 percent of engineers are from Madhesh. If you analyse Director
general of Irrigation, roads, bhawan bibhag and similar other institutions,
you will find in las 30/40 year only one or two madhesi got the chance to
reach the position.

With all these things, what i am trying to say is political empowerment is
the root for the development of any community and nation. Economic and
social development can be achieved only if you have political power.
Fedralism is one and easy way to empower the madhes. Fedralism will
certainly not brought all kinds of development automatically but it
certainly will trigger the development across the region and have positive
impact on national development itself.

All my arguments does not mean that i support the present violence in terai,
however the recent success of maoist has proved that if you take guns in
your hand you will achieve power which is a pad precedence. Our leaders
should show the ability that they could identify the issues before the
people come to road. Unfortunately, they haven' t yet.

The meaning of inclusive governance as depicted in Mr Lal's article should
be the point of departure for both the elite ruling and agitating party to
initiate their talk for the prosperous and brighter Nepal. I congratulate
MRPF for their success to bring the issue in front to be solved in time but
i also urge them to so the restrain and come to table for meaningful
solution of the age old problem.

I hope the problem will be solved in fair way acceptable to both pahade and
madhesi which will leave very limited space for reactionaries to play.

Thank you

Ajay


Dear all
Thank u . Please continue
Roshani


I need your help in this small task. You know that a part of
the maoist have broken off and formed a new wing, the janatantra morcha. If
you could please send me all the news articles and clips about the new group
of the maoist and whatever voilence that the maoist are causing and a;lso
the latent situation in nepal. With these articles if you could also mail me
the links or websites to these articles.
I would really appreciate it if you could help me.


Dear Ram Manohar Ji,
I appreciate your continue concern. Just like you we are
equally worried about this issue therefore, we are doing something.
Below are
the list of things:
1. We have issued another strong statement on behalf of
ANTA strongly condemning excessive use of force. This should be
published today
in Nepali media;
2. ANTA has asked Nepalese American Council to provide fund
for victims and president of NAC has already send that to the excecutive
committee. Upon approval we will distribute this fund through proper
channel.

3. We are also raising seperate fund and our executive committee has
already
pledge almost $1 K and we will raise more from North-American diaspora.
Again, this
fund will be distributed via proper channel.
4. We are in constant touch with
concern people and pressuring government to start dialogue ASAP.

We are watching situtation very closely and do our best to assist in every
fashion we can. Please feel free to contact me should you need further
clarification.
Thanks


Hello;
I think not all Madhesi People government should give citizenship to all who
don't have it but they have to be nepali................they have to find
out ...........base reason ........!.............u just talking aobut
Madhesi man don't u think there are lot other...............
resign don't work if you talking bcoz police die......but it work bcoz he is
not doing wat he suppose 2 do.


Madhesis have been marginalized for over two centuries. The Gorkha imperial
ambition saw Terai as a colonial frontier, and the pahadi attitude continues
today. Madhesis are a second class citizen in their own country. Every
madhesi grievance must be redressed. Every madhesi voice must be heard.
Every madhesi dignity must be upheld.

There have been excesses, and the perpetrators must be held duely
responsible.

But ethnic cleansing? Holocaust? Rwanda?

These are strong words.

Some people are intent on creating a Frankenstein.



After I read this article I got a little hint of what's happening - http://www.nepalipost.com/nepali/nepal.php
But people like you and me need to think 'out of the box'. Far-sighted-ness and understanding the core issues are very important and absolutely needed for Nepal and Nepalis today. Madhesis are Nepalis as Pahadis and Sherpas as well. That's the beauty of this Nation - which we have to prove to the world. Yes, we have not sorted out every differences we have today but eventually it will. We Nepalis were never given/shown opportunity to blend together in some cases. I see the hatred that has woven in every human being.
Your aspect is from political science and mine is more from the spiritual aspect. Politics tend to satisfy the majority - sprituality ignites, strengthen every single creatures in this earth. Peace has to rule the world - otherwise it'll detroy the entire human race in the next century. There is internal and external peace. What we see are all external and needs patches and so is internal. Unless we make ourselves peaceful, beyond-hateredness, non-violent, non-greedy there is no political system in the world can make us peaceful. Even at the next village where Buddha realized 'Nirbana' ro where King 'Janak' received his Bideha-Mukti.
Madhesis are awesome, hardworking, intelligent work force, a buffer between India to Nepal and so are Sherpas/Pahadis to China/Tibet. It this tiny country of so much diversity - we are trying to bring all flowers together to make a garland. Do you think it is possible? So we need to bring economic advantage to bring these under-priviledged Nepalis to participate the world economy. Let's think and join our hands, brains together to unite, ignite and explode in the global village? At the same time make sure the extreme royalists, the extreme religious jihadis, the terroists and need to be checked/watched. We civil society members need to power ourselves and take the authority in democratic norms not only through politics but spiritually as well..... let's meditate on this !
Ananta Risal


Excellent point. Some may be even conspiring against the movement.

Read my article in Ktm Post of June 22- its a critic of the proposed
electoral method.

Best,
Mahendra


My e-mail to ND Forum this morning....


Hi Paramendra;
Sorry for my ignorance but please educate me politically what was the riots in Terai about? I thought they were the split group from Maiots and a coalition group who support King and some BJP (extreme hindu identity). Try to educate the diaspora people from the participation perspetive and what the real cause is?? Can you put up a forum for this??
Offcourse if they are genuin Nepalis they need to be treated as such but what line should we draw not to give citizenship to the unwanted such as thugs and Indians (who stay in Nepal and proclaim as they are loyal to India than Nepal - I am also including certain politicians who do the same in the name of dividing people).
Ananta Risal


thanks, I have been calling people in kathmandu. I am all over it this time.
Yeh Hamari aajadi ki ladadi he.


Paramendra jee,
Thank you very much for your inquery about the Terai crisis. Oviously, I am
eagerly looking the Terai incident. I have great sympathy to them. I am very
much concern about two things in Nepal
1. The existing social harmony among the Nepali people should not be broken.
2. Nation should not be splited in the name of politics.
Whether they are Madeshi or Pahadi, all the deprived group should be unite
and find out the solution soon. Lets talk over phone on this matter.

Your's
Bansha Lal


Thanks for your view.
Ok pra.


Bhagat jee,

I have no interest on your blog, please remove my name from your database.
I have never register on your blog, i don;t know where you get my id.

I don;t want anymore of your emails. Please stop.

thanks




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