Friday, November 03, 2006

Madhesi Movement: Online Resources




Audio: Madhesi Rights 1, Madhesi Rights 2, Madhesi Rights 3

Democracy For Nepal

50-50, 30-30-30-10
िगिरजा, माधव, प्रचण्ड सब एक जैसे हैं
UML Regression On The Madhesi Question
Email To All Madhesis From Rajendra Mahto
Pramukh Dar
Madhesi Rights
Three Emerging Poles
Janajati, Madhesi: Too Vague, Dalit: Not Assertive Enough
Rajendra Mahto: नागरिकता विधेयक खोतल्दा
Hands Off The Madhesi Activists
Citizenship Acquiring Process Eased
Madhesi Self Hate
Interim Parliament: 101 Members Total
Language Policy
Janakpur Gherao
Mainstream Jay Krishna Goit Also
Madhesi Caucus In Interim Parliament Needed
Hindi Is At The Core Of The Madhesi Identity
Girija, Resign
Hridayesh
Direct Elections, One Seat For Every 100,000 People, Reservations, Primaries
C.K. Lal: NRIs In Nepal
ANA Convention: My Hamro Nepal Speech
Madhesis, Social Justice, And The DaMaJaMa Equation In Nepal
June 17 Madhesi Gathering In New York City
MaMaMaMa
Abolish The Monarchy, Abolish The Army
Democracy Diwali At The Nepali Mandir
मधेशीसँग संख्या छ, शिक्त छैन
Internalized Racism Among Nepalis In NYC
The April Revolution Asks For A New Political Party
No Short Cuts: Madhesis Will Have To March
Chitralekha Yadav: Speaker
Madhesi Rights: Total Equality
My Most Controversial Blog Post To Date: On Madhesi Issue
Aire Gaire Natthu Khaire Pahadis
First ANTA NYC Event, Times Square Marriott
ये तो क्रान्ित है
Constituent Assembly: 300 Seats Of Roughly Equal Population
हृदयेश त्रिपाठी: मधेसी समस्या र राज्यको पुनर्संरचना
संघीय गणतन्त्र
मधेशी अधिकारको कुरामा पहाडीहरुको सहभागीता
मधेशी पहचान
अइ आन्दोलनमें मधेशी अधिकारके बात
लोकतान्त्रिक गणतन्त्र नै किन?
Janakpur Rally, Biggest In Nepal Since 1990
PCP: Pahadi Chauvinist Pig
Time For Madhesi Militancy Is Now
In The Quest For Social Justice Feelings Are Going To Get Hurt
Madhesi
September 16 Protest Rally
Nepal's Terai People In Deplorable Conditions: Mahto
Words Matter
Madhesi Hum Lenge Sau Mein Pachas
The Kathmandu Media Ignores The Sadbhavana
Sangram Morcha: A New Political Party (1993)
Peace First, Then Democracy, Democracy First, Then Social Justice
Madhesi Rights: Abhi Nahin To Kabhi Nahin
Tibetans And Madhesis

Google Video: Madhesi

Bindeshwar Shah On Madhesi Rights
Madhesi Gathering In Prospect Park 1
Madhesi Gathering In Prospect Park 2
Nepal Democracy 6
Seven Party Delegation At Yak
Aftab Alam, Nepali Congress 1
Aftab Alam, Nepali Congress 2
Ratneshwar Goit, CPN (UML)
Anil Jha, Nepal Sadbhavana Party 1
Anil Jha, Nepal Sadbhavana Party 2
Anil Jha, Nepal Sadbhavana Party 3

Madhesi Jagaran

ANTA To ANT?

Madhesi - United We Stand

Where Is The Land To Distribute?
Case Study: Madhesi dalits are on no one's agenda
मधेशी दलित, भूमि र नागरिकताको पीडा
Game Theory and Madhesi Dilemma
Rastra ko Sabal ra madhesi janta
विश्वविद्यालयमा समावेशीकरण
समावेशी लोकतन्त्रको स्वरुप र संरचनामा कर्णालीलगायत पिछडिएका क्षेत्र
राष्ट्र, राष्ट्रियता र नागरिकता
Case Study - Crisis of Identity and Compulsions of Survival: Paradox of a Madhesi Youth
Historical: King Mukunda Sen’s Invasion of Kathmandu Valley
संविधानसभामा मधेसको एजेन्डा
मधेसीहरूलाई व्यवहारमै नेपालीको रूपमा अझै हेरिएको छैन
DISCRIMINATION: UNTIL WHEN?
मधेसी समस्या र राज्यको पुनर्संरचना - हृदयेश त्रिपाठी
पहाडियामा शासकीय र मधेशीहरुमा दास मनोवृत्ति छ: मात्रृका यादव
मधेसमा अनेरास्ववियुका चुनौती
Land Reforms, Key to Social Harmony
Case Study - Madhesi Dalit
Madhesh -Wikipedia Article
NEPAL: RESTRUCTING of the STATE
Harmful arsenic found in Terai water
Discrimination - how far? How long?
Madhesis: colonial subjects or masters of their own destiny?
के यो न्याय हो
खुला सिमाना र मधेस
Rajendra Mahto Interview with KESHAB POUDEL
Time to Test
The Politics Of State Restructuring
Prachanda on Madhesi
Dalit and Dalit Women of Terai
SEPARATISM OR FREEDOM
मधेसलाई हेर्ने दृष्टिकोण
Tigers in the Plains
Tarai tinderbox
POLITICS-NEPAL: Now Ethnic Separatism
Tarai on a slow burn
A unified Madhes
Democracy is incompatible with the concentration of power
Women Rule The Roost
Inclusion of the excluded Madheshis
The Politics of Citizenship in Nepal View
Nepal’s Terai people neglected View
Nepal’s ‘other’ half View
Nepali Nationalism View
Police brutality on Madhesies demanding Citizenship at Janakpur View
Shalaam Shaab! View
Nepal’s Citizenless Citizens View
Cultural flows across a blurred boundary View
Who Am I ? Nepalese of Indian origin, or Indian of Nepalese origin or Bihari ?? View
NRIs in Nepal View
Dalit Youths for Social Change View
In a state of statelessness: a case study of the citizens without citizenship in Nepal View
In a state of statelessness View
Proud to be Madheshi? View
Proud to be Madheshi? II View

On The Web

A unified Madhes « Madhesi - United We Stand
Prachanda on Madhesi « Madhesi - United We Stand
POLITICS-NEPAL: And Now Ethnic Separatism
Democracy For Nepal (DFN): Bindeshwar Prasad Yadav: Prachanda On ...
eKantipur.com - Nepal's No.1 News Portal
SINHAS
“A unified Madhes” - Nepali Times
Tarai - Nepali Times
IPCS - South Asia
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself
OnzeWereld - Nieuws
Rebellion Is Justified!: Interview with Prachanda: Hoist the ...
[PDF] SUMMARY OF THE PILOT RESEARCH ON THE INHERITANCE RIGHTS OF WOMEN
[PDF] PILOT RESEARCH ON EQUAL RIGHTS TO PARENTAL PROPERTY A Review of ...
Democracy For Nepal (DFN): Contents 2006 (2)
South Asia Intelligence Review (SAIR), Weekly Assessments & Briefings
English Search - [ Translate this page ]
Wikipedia:Projekti Fjalori/Fizikë - Wikipedia
Parivartan Nepal: August 2006
NEPAL: Maoïstische splintergroep eist onafhankelijkheid voor Zuid ...

The Madhesis Of Nepal
madhesi news views and terai community of nepal
Democracy For Nepal (DFN): June 17 Madhesi Gathering In New York City
Democracy For Nepal (DFN): Madhesi
Madhesi - United We Stand
SAJHA.COM - Bringing Together Nepali Communities
Madhesi Jagaran
Madhesi Gathering In Prospect Park 1 - Google Video
paramendra's bookmarks tagged with "madhesi" on del.icio.us
madhesi : Madhesi
Nepalnews.com Mercantile Communications Pvt. Ltd.
Madhesi Jagaran: Madhesi Manch
NATION: Madhesi dalits are on no one's agenda
Bindeshwar Shah On Madhesi Rights - Google Video
Personalities « Madhesi - United We Stand
[DOC] List of Madhesi Ethnicity Institutions
My Dharan | Your Window to a Global Dharane Network :: View topic ...
Social Science Baha - Nepal Tari Conference
SAJHA.COM - Bringing Together Nepali Communities
Asia Times Online :: South Asia news, business and economy from ...
The Rising Nepal
ASIP--Their World, Their Eyes--Introduction
National The Telegraph - Weekly (Nepal)
Samudaya.org: "Maybe Gulf countries are better, but never Malaysia ...
bhagat's vocal blog on madhesi
eKantipur.com - Nepal's No.1 News Portal
Paramendra Bhagat's Blog
OneWorld South Asia Home / Gender / Gender News - Nepal MPs exhort ...

CIPEC - Reasearch Site - Nepal
Terai Region of Nepal
Nepal Terai Region,Terai Region of Nepal,Nepal Terai Region Tour ...
Nepal's Terai - a photoset on Flickr
The Terai (Nepal) : Read reviews and compare prices at Ciao.co.uk
Himalayan Mask- Rajbansi, Terai, Nepal
Images of the Himalayan Plains, Terai Region, Nepal - Earthbound ...
Tenure and forest conditions: community forestry in the Nepal Terai
Flickr: Nepal Images
Conservation or Development in Nepal's Terai? Resolving Resource ...
NPR - Radio Expeditions: Preserving Nepal's Endangered Species

In The News

Indian PM delaying Nepal peace talks: Maoist leader Hindustan Times, India
Yadav points fingers at Indian PM for talks delay Nepalnews.com, Nepal
One Hurt as Locals, Maoists Clash in Rautahat Himalayan Times, Nepal
Gupta flays monarchy for Madhesis' woes Gorkhapatra, Nepal
Madhesis should be ensured 50% participation in state system Gorkhapatra, Nepal
Opposing class forces face off in post-monarchy Nepal Party for Socialism and Liberation
‘Goit ordered me to bomb Kantipur office’ Kantipur Online, Nepal
JTMM ready for talks with the government Nepalnews.com, Nepal
Summit Talks in Snail’s Pace in Nepal United We Blog, Nepal

E-W OPTICAL FIBER NETWORK: NT gears up to start data service Kantipur the optical fiber network laid along the East-West highway. Once the plan materializes, the cost of data transfer services like Internet would come down by as much as 50 percent. ....... links Bhadrapur in the East and Lamahi in the West. ..... the network is linked to optical fiber networks of two Indian telecom service providers, namely the BSNL in Birgunj and Bharati Telecom in Bhairahawa. ...... in the initial phase NT is planning to procure 155Mbps of bandwidth from one of the two Indian companies, both of which have submarine optical cable links with the developed countries, including Singapore in Asia, the US, and others in Europe. ..... Currently, most of the ISPs have a bandwidth capacity of around 35Mbps ..... “These ISPs pay up to US$3,000 to purchase one mbps of bandwidth, using satellite means”
Rebels grab office building, documents
Post joins Asia News Network brings the number of member newspapers to 16 from 14 countries. The network is a cooperation of leading newspapers in Asia with daily exchanges of news, exchanges of journalists, publication of a weekly news magazine and a host of other media activities. .... China Daily, Daily Yomiuri and Yomiuri Shimbun of Japan, The Island of Sri Lanka, Korea Herald, The Straits Times of Singapore, The Nation of Thailand, The Statesman of India, Vietnam News, The Daily Star of Bangladesh, Philippine Daily Inquirer, The Jakarta Post of Indonesia, Sin Chew Daily and The Star of Malaysia, and Vientiane Times of Laos.
Arms management should be complete and credible: Indian envoy
Govt initiates reconstruction program
Maoists bar leading companies from dispatching products
NC MPs press for party's clear stance on monarchy Nepali Congress (NC) Members of Parliament have demanded a special convention to clarify the party's stance on the issue of monarchy. ...... the MPs told Koirala that they were under tremendous pressure to clarify the party's stance on the issue of monarchy. ..... Koirala was positive towards the proposal of holding the party's convention to this end. ...... Minister Sitaula left the meeting following the accusations ..... MPs also stressed on the complete management of Maoists' arms before the Constituent Assembly elections
Army expresses "serious concern" over convoy obstruction by Maoists
SC Justices contest PAC recommendation to impeach Justices
ADB official encouraged by developments in Nepal
10 cops suspended
Oil store owner shot dead in Bara
Moriarty repeats US stance, says Maoists in govt only after arms separation
ICJ urges govt, Maoists to prioritise human rights issues

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Thursday, November 02, 2006

Human Rights Community Memo To Eight Parties






In The News

Arms management should be complete and credible: Indian envoy Kantipur
Maoists bar leading companies from dispatching products
MPs discuss summit talks
Remains found in Nagarjun could be of missing French lady: Police
Govt initiates reconstruction program
NC MPs press for party's clear stance on monarchy
Martin, Maoist top brass discuss arms management
Peace talks close to decisive point: Mahara
Banke epidemic is cerebral malaria
NC cadres protest rebel bullying
Kathmandu Metropolitan Police from Nov 17
Women domestics to be allowed in Gulf region
Govt waives renewal fees of FM, TV stations
Maoists reluctant to sign total truce: Minister Gyawali
OHCHR-Nepal calls on CPN-Maoist to stop policing
कोइरालासँग कांग्रेस जिल्ला सभापतिहरूको माग कांग्रेसका जिल्ला सभापतिहरूले संविधानसभा निर्वाचनमा राजतन्त्रको स्थान र भविष्यबारेमा पार्टीले लिने नीति तत्काल तय गर्न नेत ृत्वसमक्ष माग गरेका छन् । जनतामा जान अप्ठ्यारो परेको गुनासो राख्दै उनीहरूले प्रधानमन्त्री एवं सभापति गिरिजाप्रसाद कोइराला सित बुधबार त्यस्तो माग गरेका हुन् । ..... प्रधानमन्त्री निवास बालुवाटारको अन्तर्त्रिmयामा अधिकांश सभापतिले पार्टीको नीति तय गर्न तत्काल महासमिति बैठक या बृहत् भेला बोलाउनसमेत माग गरे । ..... कोइरालाले संविधानसभाअगाडि नै सभापतिसहितको बृहत् भेला बोलाएर पार्टीको स्पष्ट नीति तय गर्ने आश्वासन दिँदै राजाका बारेमा संविधानसभामार्फत जनताले दिने आदेश नै पार्टीको नीति हुने बताए । ...... सभापतिहरूले शान्ति वार्ता चलिरहेका बेलासमेत माओवादीले युद्धविराम आचारसंहिता उल्लंघन जारी राखेको भन्दै त्यस्ता क्रियाकलाप बन्द गराउन नसकेकामा सरकारको आलोचना गरेका थिए । उनीहरूले युद्धविराम सम्झौता भएको चार महिना भइसक्दा पनि सहमतिबमोजिम माओवादीद्वारा कब्जा गरिएको घरजग्गा/सम्पत्ति फिर्ता नभएको र द्वन्द्वपीडितहरू घर र्फकने वातावरण नबनेकामा रोष प्रकट गरेका थिए । ... अन्तक्रिर्यामा कांग्रेसका पचासभन्दा बढी सभापति उपस्थित थिए ।
शान्ति मन्त्रालयको प्रस्ताव
महानगर प्रहरी मंसिरदेखि
तामाकोसीमा लगानी गर्न आह्वान
सेन्टअप पनि १० बाटै
'माओवादीले चरम यातना दिए'
वार्तामा जुँगाको लडाइँ
अमेरिकामा रहेका नेपाली अहिले त्यो बढेर एक लाख पुगेको अनुमान छ । भारत, हङकङ, मलेसिया, सिंगापुर, अस्ट्रेलिया, जापान, कोरिया, खाडी मुलुक र बेलायतका साथै अमेरिका पनि अहिले नेपाली जनसंख्याको दृष्टिबाट विशेष महत्त्वको मुलुक भएको छ र त्यहाँको नेपाली संसार विशिष्ट किसिमबाट विकसित हुन थालेको छ । ....... अहिले प्रतिदिन कति नेपाली अमेरिका प्रवेश गर्छन् र कहाँ-कहाँ जान्छन् त्यसको आधिकारिक तथ्यांक छैन । यस स्थितिमा प्रत्येक नेपाली नागरिकको हकहितको विषय कसरी कसले हेर्ने भन्ने प्रश्न स्वाभाविक रूपले उठ्ने गर्छ । ....... केही नेपाली बुद्धिजीवीको स्थानीय स्टेट गभर्नर, कंग्रेसम्यान र सिनेटरहरूसँग पहुँच स्थापित भएको छ, जसले गर्दा हालै सम्पन्न जनआन्दोलनलाई अमेरिकी समर्थन जुटाउन ठूलो मदत पुगेको थियो भन्ने वास्तविकता देशभित्र धेरैलाई थाहा नहुन सक्छ । ...... सन् १९६० मा राजा महेन्द्रले सैनिक बल प्रयोगद्वारा प्रजातन्त्र एवं सबै प्रजातान्त्रिक संस्थाहरू विघटन गरेपछि राष्ट्रपति केनेडीको कार्यकालमा अमेरिकाले राजालाई प्रजातान्त्रिक अधिकार फिर्ता गर्न दबाव दिनु छ भनी हेरिन्थ्यो । तर केनेडीको हत्यापछि लामो समयसम्म त्यो उत्साहजनक स्थिति रहेन । ....... राष्ट्रपति जिम्मी कार्टरका पालामा सुन्दरीजलको सैनिक जेलमा बन्द क्यान्सर आक्रान्त वीपी कोइरालाको स्वास्थ्य रक्षाका लागि एमनेस्टी इन्टरनेसनलका साथै त्यहाँका सिनेटर, कंग्रेसम्यान तथा नागरिक समाजका एक सयजना अगुवाले हस्ताक्षर गरी राजा वीरेन्द्रलाई लेखी पठाएका थिए । त्यसैको परिणाम उहाँको स्वास्थोपचार अमेरिकामा नै गर्ने गरी रिहा गरिएको कुरा स्मरणीय छ । ..... पहिलो, विदेशमा रहेका नेपाली हकहितलाई दृष्टिगत गर्दै यससम्बन्धी समस्या हेर्ने नेपाल सरकारको एउटा छुट्टै मन्त्रालय वा विभागको स्थापना गरिनुपर्छ । ..... दोस्रो, नेपालको नागरिकता नभएका तर स्वदेशप्रति केही गरौँ भन्ने नेपालीहरू -एनआरएन) लाई दोहोरो नागरिकता दिन सक्ने व्यवस्था गरिनुपर्छ । ..... तेस्रो, विदेशमा रहेका सम्पूर्ण नेपालीलाई देशभित्रको निर्वाचनमा मतदान गर्न पाउने अधिकार दिइनुपर्छ । ..... चौथो, विश्वका विभिन्न मुलुकमा छरिएर रहेका नेपालीलाई जनसंख्याको आधारमा स्थान, संख्या र क्षेत्र तोकेर संसद्भित्र पनि प्रतिनिधित्व हुने व्यवस्था मिलाइनुपर्छ ।

Nepal rebel chief to make rare visit to India Reuters AlertNet, UK
Indian PM delaying Nepal peace talks: Maoist leader Hindustan Times, India
UN asks Nepal communist rebels to halt abduction, torture International Herald Tribune, France
Nepal supreme court orders probe living goddess tradition for ... International Herald Tribune, France
Nepal Police set to introduce Kathmandu Metropolitan Police Nepalnews.com, Nepal
Nepal Airlines The Carrier People Still Prefer Gorkhapatra, Nepal




The 1950 Treaty


Two things I would like to say:

(1) The Nepali leadership may revoke the 1950 treaty at any time, and I think it should.
(2) The open border between Nepal and India is here to stay. That is part of the Madhesi lifestyle.

From An Email Discussion

Thank you,Premji for your interest and suggestion.I am sure that there will be some very positive outcome as a result of all this debate and discussion.Why not forward your suggestions directly to the concerned?

Best regards,

Sincerely,

RBChhetri

From: "Prem Kumar"
To: "Ram B Chherti"
CC:
Subject: Re:
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 15:25:44 +0530

Very nice discussion,

can we form a think tank at your end and have some concrete to all of us to do.

as we all are capabale of speaking lot, now can be all be ready to implement it practically,

please guide me through.

sincerely
prem k bhattarai
(Based in New Delhi)

On 11/2/06, Ram B Chherti wrote:

Dear Tilakji and Manoj Bhai,

Thanks for brainstorming on the historical perspective.Frankly speaking it has been an exhilarating experience to go through all this.As a layman and a person with patriotic fervor,I have already made my stance clear .But,I admit, I have yet to learn quite a few things.

Please keep up the good work.

Warmest regards,

Sincerely,

RBChhetri

From: "Tilak Shrestha"
To:
CC:
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 11:55:09 -0600

Nov. 1, 2006

Dear Manoj Pandit Jee,

Namaste and thanks for your prompt response.

Let us keep the discussions relevant to your topic of the 'Greater Nepal.' Allow me to make a few comments on your writing.

Pandit : 1what do you think we have got from 1950 treaty?an open border,although not mentioned inthe treaty but every body assumed and then border is unmanaged.

----------The biggest drawback and we are affected in the indo-nepal relationship is the so called opened but i will say unmanaged border through a lot of unseen problem has been produced.

may be you think the open border between us is a productive,i will suggest you to revise the ideology,i can give you its merit and lot of demerits.

so you are for the migrant nepali workers in india ?it has to be discussed whether it has been very productive for the national output.

Comment: I really do not know much about the 1950 treaty to make any judgment. However, it is not relevant to the concept of the greater Nepal. Yes, we need to know whether border being open (or unmanaged) is good or bad. I do not know the answer to the question. However, I would suggest a study by competent office before declaring any. I can imagine lots of Indian nationals coming in, and same time lots of Nepalese going to India also. I would not jump to the conclusion without some thought and survey on it.

Pandit : 2why do you think it is not the right time to raise the issue about national problem?when will be the time?who decide what time is right--when you don,t have the nation?there is written that every time is right to raise your voice for your Rights.now is the best time to expose all the wrong that happened in the history..Pardon sir there had been lot of unjustice happened to Nepal as nation and to nepalise people.so what long time we wait for the right time.

Comment: I think right time is when Maoist problem is solved and the regular democratic practice is in place. At this time, we even do not have a functioning constitution, let alone a properly elected government. This is my definition of right or wrong time. What is yours?

Yes, I am sure there are many injustices done. All you need to do is spell out exactly what are they? How and in what context such injustices happened? Who are the culprits and victims? What do you propose to do in today's context? Perhaps people of Kumaon and Garhwal may also have grievance against recurrent Gurkha invasion before British occupation. Unless you have spelled out properly and conceptualize a feasible plan, there is no point in wild goose chase.

Pandit : 3,plese sir take this words that a nation is being encrypted by treaties,you might have heard sikkim smash and it is done by the treaty.so very important all the treaties that had been done by the worst ruler in the past has to be revived or cancealed.so the 1950s treaty has to be first reviewed,then if necessary cancealed it which will be better for the future of nepal.

TO YOUR INFORMATION WHAT YOU READ AS THE TREATY PAPER IS NOT ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THE TREATY,THERE IS A SECRET LETTER WITH IT WHICH HAD PUT NEPAL IN CRISIS AND NEPAL BEING INDIA'S SUBSTATE.

4what do you think sir what controls our political decision,commerce,transportation,water resources,sometimes foreign affairs and political changes in Nepal?so I request you to awake about the consequences and review about the history.

Comment: I do not know what you mean by 'encrypted by treaty.' However, I understand that you are against 1950 treaty. I do not know enough about all the ramifications of it to pass judgment. However, I would suggest a discussion in an open public forum. Also let us not forget that Nepal is a land locked and poor country. In the present condition, it will be very difficult for us to make the border a standard international type. Perhaps Nepal can propose to India a new concept where all the interests are addressed. If India still wants to impose their vision, then we have a legitimate grievance. However, the key is the good home work first.

Yes, it is indeed to my information that a secret letter exist. If you know about the secret letter, then it is not really a secret letter, is it? Since I do not know about it, please do educate me. What is it and how is it detrimental to Nepal ? How does a secret letter make Nepal a vassal to India? By the way, I am sure there are lots and lots of secret letters in world. So far they have not bothered me. I am rather worried about public legal letters. Just for argument, say King Mahendra signed such secret letter to the detriment of Nepal . And by the stretch of imagination King Birendra is also obliged to it. However, how will that deter democratically elected leaders?

I would think the political, economic and other decisions are too complex to be decided by any single person. I do not think even Mahendra or Prithvi Narayan Shah can claim that. I understand you are alluding to India being such entity. Here again, I think best thing to do is to study Indian interests, and spell out where Indian and Nepalese interests compliment and contradict. That way we can have a better deal or negotiation. I am against knee jerk blame India game. It only makes us idiots. Again, first thing to do is good home work. Can you spell out exactly what are Indian interests and how are they detrimental to our interests? Remember, there is always some give and take. Thus, we need to know exactly what are 'gives and takes.' 'Waking up' means understanding all the issues first.

Pandit : 5 as for the suguali treaty/YES/we need to have positive thinking on it,nomatter how many years it will take,the dream will come true but we have to be stronmg enough to raise our voice,make the whole world know it and we go on pursuaing it.

Nomatter what profile it is now,the territory of sugauli treaty is our RIGHTS and you never hesisate to acknowledge your RIGHTS.I have tried to put forward our historic RIGHTS and make people aware of it hoping in coming generation s big achivement will be in diagram of nepal.

why do you think it is a problem?why?This issue is not a problem,it is our RIGHTS:::

people from those states?lets have election first and we will have the result.

It is not India to give the land it is us to demand our land,if we don't do it then nobody is going to give you anything.

Comment: Regarding the pre-Sugaoli land, I think there are three issues involved. First and foremost – what legal basis do we have, which can stand in an international court? Second is the political issue - do people living in those areas think themselves as Nepalese today and wants to join Nepal? Mind you that India is conducting elections in those areas since her independence. What if they think them selves Indian and laugh at your proposal? Are we so economically advanced that we can provide them with better economic opportunity as incentives?

Third is the historical issue - was there a country called Nepal with pre-Sugaoli border long enough to make an entity recognized in history and in people's collective memory? In my opinion, undefined Nepal existed all the way from the ' Mahabharat' time. However, the seed of modern Nepal is planted by Prithvi Narayan Shah when he won Kathmandu valley in 1768. Then it was a matter of expansion and conquest of Nepalese-Gurkha army. Nepal expanded up to the river Kali by 1790. Nepal conquered Kumaoun\Garhwal in 1803. In 1814 Nepal lost these part to British forces and in 1816 Sugaoli treaty it was recognized. Nepal controlled the areas only for a few years and perhaps not long enough to make a nationalist case. If you look it from the historical perspective of Indian Uttaranchal state, a dozen years of Gurkha rule may be only a small foot note. This is the history of the 19th century where conquering land by force was a legitimate politics. It is not relevant today, where politics is about citizens ruling themselves. However, it is a matter of historical research and I do not have enough background on it. By the way, how do you propose to 'demand' land from India? Are you going to international court first, or merely write a letter to India? Or I hope not, attack India with a very sharp Khukri? If you do, please do not expect me to follow. My opinion is to take care of the present 'Mechi – Mahakali' Nepal first. Which we, sadly, are not doing good job; let alone dream of the greater Nepal. We have to be careful what we dream of. What if Palpa (annexed in 1804) wants to be an independent country? And also Baishe, Chaubise? What if China claims suzerainty over Nepal? They may be able to produce some old and forgotten documents. Being realistic and practical is not anti-national. To commit without thinking through is.

Pandit : UNNECESSARY?what is necessary for you sir?may be your necessity is different from us?

Comment: Yes, your and my definitions of 'necessary' are different. However, neither of them qualifies to be the 'necessity' of Nepal . The national interest should be defined either through referendum or through legitimate political parties. I do suggest first to take a sample opinion survey of people living in Kumaon\Garhwal if they think themselves as Nepali, not Indian; and if they want to join Nepal ; and then to take the case to any of the existing parties. If any party thinks it a good cause, then great. My kudos to you.

Pandit: I want all the injustice to my nation being provoked first and solved then.so if you think India is doing everything great for nepal and India is parents for us then lets drop the idea of discussing on 1950s treaty and sugauli treaty.

Comment: How do you 'provoke' injustice? I do not want to provoke any. Yes, I am all for solving each and every problem. However, first you have to define exactly what are the problems? Vague ideas of perceived injustices will not do? You have to spell them out. Then you have to make proposals which address all the legitimate interests and injustices. Not I, but you wrote, " India is doing everything great for Nepal and India is parents for us." By the way, your issue of ' India is father or not' is not relevant to the issue of greater Nepal.

Pandit: 6 Do you know sir whar RAW is doing in Nepal ?why do you think any nationalist though is supported by ISI.?

PLEASE TAKE MY WORD THAT MOST OF NEPALISE HAVE THIS URGE TO RAISE THE VOICE BUT DUE TO A LOT OF SURROUNDING PROBLEM THEY CAN'T AND WHOEVER CAN THEY ARE PERSONS TO BE APPRECIATED NOT PUTTING HALLMARK,

lot of people have sold their soul not to raise the national issue so it is very difficult to stand for nation and i am fighting on it.

Comment: No, I do not know what 'RAW' is doing in Nepal. They do not tell me. Please do educate me. Before you tell me about the RAW activities, please establish the relevance of RAW with the issue of the Greater Nepal. If we are planning to attack Kumaon secretly then perhaps we have to watch out RAW. If RAW can read your web site with a flick of mouse using internet, then how is RAW relevant? No, I did not accuse any body being ISI agent. Wisdom is 'not to accuse without any evidence' and also 'think of all possibilities.' It is a common knowledge that Pakistan is bent on bleeding India with thousand cuts, their stated policy. Cases like Khalistan, SIMI are not Pakistan created, while case like Kashmir is. In all the cases Pakistan is trying to hurt India . Pakistan is not anti-Nepal, but anti-India. To tell the truth, Pakistan is not even anti-India, but anti-Hindu. In the process of hurting India if they can use Nepal, she will. And in the process if Nepal, a kafir country, suffers, then well and good. For example, Pakistan is using Kathmandu as a route to send her agents and counterfeit Indian currency to India. Matter of fact, Nepal is obliged to make 500 IC Rs. illegal. I have also read articles on Kashmir by a 'Bahun lady?', which is merely Pakistan's official version. That is, we have to be careful. Regardless of Pakistan, if you really think we have a case against Sugauli treaty then let a lawyer make at least a prima facie case, which can stand in the International court. Politicizing the issue is the last thing you want to do.

Pandit : Sir this is my answer to your previous mail,i hope you will have all the qns being answered. if not put forward on me. i will write on your second mail next

Comment: I do look forward to.

Manoj pandit
www.greaternepal.com

Tilak sir
my next mail.

1 sir you must see this film,must, must.this film will come to USA for the screening.

Comment: I will, and you will have my comments also. By the way, does your documentary make a legal case on behalf of the greater Nepal ? If your web site is any indication, mere showing old battle grounds where Nepali army fought will not do. They are history, tourist attractions, and points of our pride; but not a valid legal case.

Pandit: 2 sorry for the irrelevence adress but he didn't mention it.and ofcourse it is not a crime to stay out there but to forget the nation and give big thoughts about nation.I have met a lot,lot of people with superficial information .

3 I AM TOTALLY AGAINST OF THE PHRASE IRRELEVANT ISSUE.

4 Whoever wharever lives if his/her idea is confusing then i don't think i can tolerate.

Comment: Yes, place of domicile is irrelevant. Let us stick to ideas. Yes, confusing ideas are not to be tolerated, but cleared.

Pandit: 5yes that i am qning that is domocracy really is to be congress on communist???so please read my mail words to words otherwise if you read with biosed pt of view then you won't understand and no meaning of such practices.

Comment: No, democracy is not about NC or UML. Perhaps you mean after 1990 only NC and UML were in government, or only their views are in national platform. Yes, I agree that is a problem. Democracy means same respect for each citizen's opinion. However, in practice you cannot listen to 25 million views simultaneously. Thus parties provide a method of filtering and concentrate relevant views. Perhaps, you should write to all the parties and in the news media. However, you should also be prepared for criticisms, at least healthy ones. I am trying to do just that.

Pandit: 6 please read my mail again and onething my film is about border encroachment by india on our borders.

Comment: As I wrote before the border encroachment of present day Nepal is a problem. However, it is a different issue all together, and not linked to the issue of greater Nepal . Even in the issue of encroachment, we have to do good home work first. That is we should do proper surveying first. Then take the case to India through proper channel. If it does not work, then we should go to International court. If that does not work, only then we can make it a political case. To accuse India without solid home work is simply making fools of our self.

Pandit: 7 if you think NEPAL IS INDEPENDENT then i am totally disagree we are partially independent,our politics,commerse,foreign relation partially,resources,trade moreover every elements being guided by India and other big shots........

Comment: Please see my earlier response. Any way, it is not relevant to the issue of greater Nepal. However, how do you propose to address the issue? I do propose first make Nepal internally strong. That is peaceful Nepal with good government, and better education and economy. They say, 'Bhai phootey, Ganwar lootey.' That is if you do not have healthy body, then all kind of disease will attack you. One strategy of better Nepal is not to create enemies, rather make more international friends.

Pandit: I don't think we need to discuss on republic/monarchy because it is political stuff which i don't think we are on the discussion,i am on the matter of national issue so lets conclude with the last cuiroisity that will patna be the capital of GREATER NEPAL i will like first to read the suguali treaty and its correspondence treaty,then we can discuss and i really felt your grawning attitude on the issue,i feel sorry for you not to understand the basic element of greater nepal.

Comment: Yes, 'monarchy or republic' is not relevant here. The imaginary scenario of Patna being the capital of the greater Nepal is about nation formation and perception of Nepali nationhood. I do not know any thing about my ' grawning attitude', let alone being practicing it. Please educate me about the basic elements of the 'Greater Nepal.' Please do so first by making a legal case which will stand in an international court.

If you follow the current political news of Nepal, you may see the centrifugal forces active in Nepal. The demand for 'ethnic' states and making Nepal a federal system is about dividing Nepal . When we are having problem even keeping intact the 'Mechi-Mahakali' Nepal, what priority do you think the 'Greater Nepal' should get? On the other hand Europeans are joining in as the 'European Union.' However, their concept of 'EU' is now about forgotten wars or treaties (they have plenty), but about mutual respect and interests. Thus, my opinion is to make the present Nepal better first.

Pandit: hoping you will feel to write in .

manoj pandit

Comment: Yes, I will try.

I also have a vision of 'Greater Nepal', that is strictly cultural, not political. Nepalese people, defined culturally, are living in many countries out side Nepal – India, Malaysia, Burma, Britain, USA, Hong Kong, you name it. Let them be exemplary citizens loyal to the country, above any suspicion of anti-nationalism. Let there be cultural ties wherever they live. Let Indian Hindus come to Janaki and Pashupati temples as pilgrims. Let Japanese, Thais and ShriLankan come to Lumbini. Let Americans and Indonesians come to Nepal as tourists. Let them perceive Nepal and Nepalese as lovable and good. Let our greatness be measured by our goodwill and spirituality. Yes, it needs some deeper thoughts, meditations and proper attitudes. Perhaps you would consider.

Wishing you all the best.

Sincerely, Tilak Shrestha

Oct. 30, 2006

Dear Manoj Pandit Jee,

Namaste. I hope you had a very pleasant Dasain and Tihar.

Thanks for writing on the issue of 'Greater Nepal.' Please do respond to my earlier comments including on your essay posted in your web site. One question: I am not able to see your movie. How do I access it? Through internet, or buy the DVD?

Since I have not seen your movie and also since you have not responded to my comments, let me be brief now. However, may I make a suggestion that 'you should not drag irrelevant issues to the discussion?'

For example:

1. Ram Chhetri jee's residence is not relevant. You should keep the discussion within the facts and ideas put forward, not accuse a person. Is it a crime to live in US? How about in Hitauda?

2. Who said 'Democracy' is being a member of a political party like NC or UML? How is it relevant here? There are lots of books on elementary political science.

3. Who is saying we should not protect our border? That is your statement, not Ram Chhetri Jee's.

4. You fought for 'democratic republic' to make Nepal an independent country. Your effort is appreciated very much. However, your effort is not relevant to the issue of 'greater Nepal.' By the way, did you fight for 'independent Nepal' or 'democratic republic?' Nepal was and is independent. Perhaps, that is why Chhetri jee did not bother to fight. Against whom and how did you fight to make Nepal independent? If you are referring to the movement of 2006, then what was your objective? Is it 'democracy' or 'republic?' Since we already have 'democracy' in 1990, what is the point? If you are referring to the King's take over then it is about restoring democracy, is not? Why 'republic'? Perhaps all Nepalese people do not share your view of Nepal to be a republic. So what do you propose? I propose to have referendum, not fight, to decide on monarchy. The real motivation of 2006 uprising is about people's demand of 'clean and good governance', not 'republic.' Remember, after King took over in Febraury 1, there was hardly any protest. Matter of fact many people applauded thinking King will do some thing about all the corrupt 'ghusya Mantris.' Only after Gyanendra showed his real face by hiring criminals and prostitutes like Tulsi Giri there was movement toward ousting him. That is, our national problem is bad and corrupt government, not 'republic' or 'monarchy.' Thus you really have to put your effort against the ' ghusya mantris.' You have to establish that if Nepal becomes 'republic' then it will produce better government than when it is 'constitutional monarchy.' At this moment, by observing deeds of corrupt recent leaders, I do not see that way.

5. The border issues like 'Kala Pani' and pre-Sugaoli 'Greater Nepal' are not related. As I wrote in my earlier comments, they are different issues all together and must be dealt separately.

6. Of course, Border issue is important but not priority at this moment. We have bigger and critical problems to deal with now.

7. Chhetri Jee's "Pro-Western" view? Can you elaborate? I have not heard of it, least from Chhetri Jee? How about it being merely his personal view? By the way, how do you qualify your view? Eastern or Oriental?

Allow me to have my imagination go wild. India agrees and gives Almora, Tista, Bihar etc. as per our demand of the greater Nepal. All the citizens of the greater Nepal get together and choose democratically ' Patna' to be the capital.

May Sharaswoti Maata bless us all.

Sincerely,
Tilak B. Shrestha, Ph.D.

Oct. 30, 2006

Ram sir

Thank you for putting your idea.

I reallywonder the kind of thought from a nepali heart:how can you say there is no attention needed for the border issue,you live in usa that is great butyou can't ignore the nation boundry.WHAT IS DEMOCRACY?sir.is it onlyright to be congress,communist or other parties fellow?what is that?If you can't save your boundry then you can't save your land and where do you stand?please don't make big comments living in usa,visit those places where land being encroached and people are suffered a lot.

what will you do if your neighbour encroached your personal land in your village,you keep quiet and be a musa.?yes we do have lot of problems because we have confusing minds and we can't decide what we have and what we need,we always lived on others mercy so you want us to live like the gnat as you say//

I fought for the democratic republic in the street for to make our nation independent country,not as we are now a dependent country and you know how our nation is being rulled.

so please think as an independent nation citizen and the border issue is very important issue to be adreessed,even i raised this qn to the seven parties leader in london and they are sorry that they forget it.

so hope to hear yourpro western version.

Manoj pandit

Oct. 29, 2006

Tilak sir

I am Manoj pandit and i have just made a documentary film titled Greater nepal-in quest of boundry and it is the film about the border issue between india and nepal.I respect your view but i really want to suggest you to rethink on your view.

you can read about me on the site on www.greaternepal.com It will be a good debate with you as we can be on contact. I will write after you response my mail.

manoj

Sept. 22, 2006

Dear None Kharel Jee,

Namaste and Dasain ko Shuva kamana.

Thanks for the text of the treaty. I understand that you are against it. Can you point out which parts of the treaty are detrimental to the Nepalese interest?

I think we have to do critical analysis of the treaty:

1. There is always some give and take. Question is what are we giving and what are we gaining. Can you spell out the give and take?

2. Nepal is a small and land locked country - a fact. What strategy do you propose to deal with India given the geo-political situation? For example, can you imagine visa requirement by India to Nepalese migrant workers. It reminds me of the border situation between US and Mexico, and closer to our country between India and Bangladesh.

3. Presently, Nepal is in fluid situation with Maoist problem and weak central government. Why do we have to bring this issue now?

4. Interim or otherwise the constitution is our internal issue and deals with the political structure of the nation. It does not deal with treaties. Why do you think a 'treaty' should be mentioned in the constitution?

5. I have also read a few articles demanding revokation of 'Sugaoli treaty' and claiming land from India. Do you think people living in those land would like to join Nepal now? Will India give the land to Nepal, with or without Sugouli treaty? What is the purpose of creating such unnecessary problem now? Do not we have bigger problem on hand?

6. It does make me suspicious that perhaps ISI of Pakistan is creating problem between Nepal and India for their political design by planting such articles through stooges in Nepal. I do not know, but I will not be surprised. What do you think?

Your response to these issues is most appreciated. Thanks.

Sincerely,
Tilak B. Shrestha, Ph.D.
Birmingham, Alabama

Subject: nepal india treaties
Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 13:22:29 -0400

Please read this. and ask your leades to revoke or correct 1950 treaty with india. This issues should be mentioned in interiam constitutions.

None kharel

http://www.insof.org/treaty/31071950_Treaty_of_Peace_and_Friendship1950.htm 1


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Nepal In 1950 China forcibly annexed Tibet ..... Fearing that China might eventually subvert or invade Nepal, India signed a Treaty of Peace and Friendship with the Rana regime in 1950. Although not a formal military alliance, the treaty required both parties to consult and "devise effective countermeasures" in the event of a security threat to either country. ....... To assuage Nepalese fears of Indian domination, the treaty also stipulated that Indian forces could be introduced into the country only at the invitation of the Nepalese government. The two sides simultaneously signed a trade and transit agreement that extended reciprocal rights with regard to bilateral trade and residential arrangements as well as transshipment of Nepalese goods through India. ..... In 1952 the Indian Military Mission arrived in Kathmandu to reorganize Nepal's armed forces and bring the kingdom's defenses more in line with India's security requirements. In implementing changes, Nepal drastically reduced the size of its postwar army and revamped its training and organization along Indian lines. Indian advisers also played key roles in training the civil service and police force. Many Nepalese--military officers and civil servants, in particular--were outraged by India's actions, which they saw as an insult to national self-respect. Indian influence was further strengthened, however, by the cooperation of both countries' militaries on several occasions in the 1950s, when at Nepal's request Indian troops helped quell disturbances near their common boundary. As Sino-Indian tensions mounted in the late 1950s, Indian soldiers and technicians assisted in staffing some of the checkposts on the frontier with Tibet. Despite close military ties, Nepal, however, has never allowed garrisoning of Indian troops or joint military exercises in the country. ...... Some fifteen months of economic dislocations and diplomatic recriminations placed heavy pressure on both sides to halt the slide in relations. Finally, both sides reaffirmed the 1950 treaty, and Kathmandu agreed not to purchase defense items abroad without consulting New Delhi. Birendra requested that China stop delivery of a final shipment of air defense equipment.
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The Hindu : Scrapping the treaty with Nepal? "Treaties'', Napoleon said, "are observed as long as they are in harmony with interests''. Agreements between nations cannot outlast the circumstances and interests that produced them in the first place. ..... Should we hang on to the 1950 treaty of peace and friendship that our Himalayan neighbour dislikes so intensely? ...... There is no greater symbol of the profound Nepali resentment against India than the five-decade old treaty of peace and friendship with New Delhi. ..... Nepal objects to restrictions in the treaty on procurement of arms and military equipment from sources other than India, as well as the requirement for consultations with New Delhi on projects involving non-Indian foreign aid and investment. ..... Many of the security gains New Delhi was supposed to get from the treaty have long been ignored by Kathmandu. .... New Delhi believes that the key provision in the treaty for ``national treatment'' of each other's citizens is now being observed only on the Indian side. ..... India finally agreed in the mid-1990s to consider Nepal's demand for a review of the treaty.

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Wednesday, November 01, 2006

Madhu Acharya Of Asia Calling: The Need For A Truth Commission



NEPAL: The need for a Truth Commission [28-10-2006] It’s been an extraordinary six months in Nepal. There have been no violent clashes between the Maoist and the military. An end to the nearly decade long conflict is finally on the horizon. But while peace talks and discussion to elections of constituent assembly take place in the capital, in the rural areas where most of the killings took place, deep divisions and suffering remain. As in Timor Leste and Aceh, rights activist say a truth commission, where victims and perpetrators can met is the only way a truly lasting peace can come about. However as Madhu Acharya reports, that could be as difficult as the current political peace talks. For those who survived the atrocities and the relatives of those who lost lives of their loved ones, it is not easy to forget and forgive grieve.



Four years ago, in the middle of the night, Guiti Chaudhari’s, daughter Sita was abducted from her home at gun point by the Nepalese army.

"I asked them where are you taking my daughter. They told me to shut up. Later I heard from other people that a girl was crying and shouting for help. They said it was my daughter. I fainted after hearing that,"

Four days later she found her daughters underpants drenched in blood in her cow shed. The next day, the state control media reported that Sita was killed in battle. Guiti has never had justice.

"I remember her every moment. She is my daughter. I cry mainly in the evenings remembering her,"

In another part of the country Remni Mukhiya also cries when she sees the photo of her now dead daughter. She was killed in the crossfire when Maoist rebels attacked an army barrack near her house. Her daughter was pregnant at the time.

"Bullets came ringing through our ears. We all tried to hide behind the bench near the fireside. The Bullets should have killed me but they hit my daughter and she died instantly. You can still see the bullet holes in the walls and door. See this bucket. It has bullet holes,"

When I ask her what she wants to happen to those who killed her daughter, Remni stares into space. She is too lost in grief to think of revenge or forgiveness.

Elsewhere though, some victims and activists are boldly pushing the agenda of post-war reconciliation and forgiveness from both sides. Tirtharaj Basnet, lost his two brothers in Nepal’s civil war. They were Maoist activist. Tirtharaj believes a government army commander called Raju Basnet killed them with 47 other inmates. Yet he is ready to forgive him and is campaigning for other victims to do the same.

"We don’t need peace that is limited to the books or the constitution or by flying doves in the streets. I need peace which can make possible for me to co-exist with Raju, the man who killed my 2 brothers. To transform the conflict to peace it should be possible for me to hug and walk together with Raju and accept together that we both have to work for change. If we don’t do this there will never be peace in this country,"

Parmendra Bhagat, a Nepali democracy activist, wants a forum similar to the South African ‘Truth and Reconciliation commission’ established here: A place not to convict and jail people but a space where victims can tell their stories.

"You cannot imagine permanent peace without it. All the stories have to be heard. If those voices are not heard there might be small scale retaliatory attacks by grieving families two years from now even ten years from now. If you don’t heal this wound, you are looking at peace that is not permanent, that is not real and you are living a very volatile situation."

Right now though a reconciliation and truth commissions is not on the political agenda here. Many other issues still need to be worked out first in the peace talks between the Maoist and the government.

The anger and divisions in society are also very raw. When Maoist supreme commander Prachanda recently asked for forgiveness from the families of people killed in one of their bus ambushes he got this response.

"We want the person who bombed the bus to be handed over to us. Then after that we will bring them to our situation: hands, legs, chest bones broken and unable to work. We will make sure that he has to sleep for rest of his life. He needs to experience the same that he did to us. We will make sure that he will have more pain than us,"

The road to a peaceful and harmonious Nepal it appears remains long and difficult.

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All Members Of The Interim Parliament Will Be Nominated

It is my prediction that the party whose parliamentary team in the interim parliament will most closely resemble the national population will emerge the largest party in the constituent assembly. Right now the Maoists look most likely to do it. They might not do right by the Madhesis, but they can be expected to do right by the Janajatis and the women. The UML is least likely to offer a diverse team. It is a party most dominated by the Bahuns. The UML has the most eskewed ethnic representation of any large party.

Say your party gets to nominate 100 of the 300 seats in the interim parliament. Give 50 of those seats to women. Of the 100, give 30 each to Madhesi, Janajati and Bahun-Chhetri, and 10 to Dalit.

That would be the ideal parliamentary team. I want to see which party comes close to that ideal. The party that comes closest will emerge the biggest after the elections.

Money And The Interim Constitution

It is fundamental that there be a provision in the interim constitution that all party finances have to be kept transparent. This is my number one concern right now.

Possibilities of the monarchists pumping money to sway the elections have to be marginalized. All the property the king did not own before he became king should be nationalized immediately. Much of the rest should be frozen for the period of the elections.

All parties should come out saying how much money they have. I want to know how much money the Maoists have. If they have twice the amount that any other party has, all that extra money should go to the state. Perhaps it can be used for the election.

If The Maoists Emerge The Largest Party


Imagine this scenario. The Maoists emerge the largest party in the constituent assembly, the Nepali Congress the second largest, and the UML the third largest.
16 percent said they would vote for the Maoists. Similarly, 14 percent said they would vote for Nepali Congress, 12 percent for CPN-UML and 4 percent for the King
On the first day of the first session of the constituent assembly, the country is declared a republic by the eight parties. At that point, Prachanda could put forth a legitimate claim that he should be Nepal's first president.

As long as the Maoists can assure us all that they are for nonviolent, multiparty politics, I think it is for the people to decide who will be president. The people's will has to count.

Federal Republic And The Nepali Congress

Only if the two Congress factions make a federal republic the plank that brings them back together, and Girija retires, and the second generation takes over does the Congress have any chance.

The Maoist map of nine federal states has a lot of resonance among the people. As long as there is no counter map by a party like the Congress, the Maoists have a huge edge over them.

Modalities To The Constituent Assembly

All such details should not be decided upon now during the peace talks. The peace talks are to work on arms management, on an interim government, and the interim constitution. There has to be a broad discussion in the interim parliament on the modalities to the constituent assembly. That will take months.

Interim Parliament Could Still Declare Republic

That is very possible. Between them, all the Left parties will have the numbers to do so. And so be it.

In The News

OHCHR calls on Maoists to stop ‘law enforcement’ activities NepalNews
Agreement on arms management soon: PM
Int’l concern over Nepal peace process normal: Leaders
‘Interim constitution by mid-November’
Minendra Rijal of Nepali Congress (Democratic) .. interim constitution should pave way for a republic based on the country’s geography. ...... Rajendra Mahato of Nepal Sadbhawana Party (Anandi Devi), Sunil Prajapati of Nepal Workers and Peasants Party and C. P. Mainali of Left Front - stressed the need of promulgating interim constitution, initiate distribution of citizenship certificates to Nepali people who have not received it, to ensure their voting rights for constituent assembly elections, integration of Maoist army and Nepali Army and fair representation of the all sections of the people in the interim governing process
98 percent people in favour of CA polls; monarchy losing popularity: Survey
87 percent of the respondents said that the monarchy’s popularity has declined in the eyes of citizens while 40 percent said decline in popularity was related to the royal massacre of 2001. Thirty-two percent likened the decline in popularity with King Gyanendra’s actions. ..... Seventy-three percent of the respondents were not aware of the meaning of federal state ...... 16 percent said they would vote for the Maoists. Similarly, 14 percent said they would vote for Nepali Congress, 12 percent for CPN-UML and 4 percent for the King. However, 4 percent of the respondents did not want to cast votes for anyone
RJP chief Thapa for democratic Front
Maoists continue to threaten the press: RSF
Leaders hopeful of breakthrough within a week
Maoists get assurance about Gajurel's release
Nepalis in Germany and Russia briefed on the ongoing talks
Maoists beat up NC (D) activist
Interaction programme on ‘democratic republican front’

Govt waives renewal fees of FM, TV stations Kantipur
Maoists reluctant to sign total truce: Minister Gyawali
OHCHR-Nepal calls on CPN-Maoist to stop policing
Resolution of arms issue within days: PM
Maoists thrash NC-D worker
NC condemns Maoist excesses
India 'positive and supportive' about Nepal peace talks, Mukherji tells Maoist leaders
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